True Freedom in Relationships and the Beliefs That Keep Us Trapped - with Peter Crone
Most of us are trapped in an invisible prison of our own conditioning. We've spent decades absorbing narratives about who we should be, what we should achieve, and how we should prove our worth. These stories run so deep we don't even realise they're there anymore.
But when we're willing to look honestly at our reactions, fears, and patterns within relationships, we can finally see where we're not free. This applies to romantic partnerships especially, but also to our connections with colleagues… even AI.
Without addressing these patterns, we become masters of our limitations. We might achieve material success, make money, tick all the boxes, but we'll still feel like we're hitting our head against a wall.
This discussion with expert coach Peter Crone offers a moment of honest reflection which can help you reveal the invisible container you've been living within.
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Transcript
In this conversation, we go deep into how relationships either become a
Speaker:direct gateway to true freedom or a way people keep themselves stuck in limiting
Speaker:beliefs, stories, and conditioning.
Speaker:We go deep into the distinct challenges men and women face in
Speaker:today's world in intimacy, love and relationships, into how early loss
Speaker:shapes identity and masculinity for men.
Speaker:What conscious masculinity actually looks like, feels like
Speaker:beyond performance, beyond rigid conditioning that men have received.
Speaker:And we also go deep into the limiting stories.
Speaker:Many women carry into intimacy relationships, and life Itself.
Speaker:We also unpack how manifesting actually works.
Speaker:Do you just surrender and let go of all control, or do you set an
Speaker:intention and then actively work toward the reality you want to create?
Speaker:What is the balance?
Speaker:There are different teachings, but what does it mean to actually
Speaker:embody this in our lived experience?
Speaker:How does this actually turn into a clear practice?
Speaker:We close by touching on what it takes to remain present, grounded and alive
Speaker:in a world that is increasingly shaped by AI and offers countless distractions.
Speaker:This is a rich and wide ranging episode, and I know you'll
Speaker:receive a lot of value from it.
Speaker:My guest today is Peter Crone.
Speaker:Peter has spent decades working in the field of human freedom
Speaker:and the end of suffering.
Speaker:He has coached Olympic athletes, professional sports teams, global leaders
Speaker:and public figures, including Tom Cruise, and he has spoken on stages and within
Speaker:organizations all around the world.
Speaker:His work centers on revealing the unseen beliefs and assumptions that
Speaker:shape how people experience life.
Speaker:So struggle can fall away and freedom can be experienced,
Speaker:can become a lived reality.
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Speaker:Welcome to the Masculine and Feminine Dynamics Podcast.
Speaker:My name is Lorin Krenn and I'm a coach, author, and hypnotherapist.
Speaker:I help you to understand masculine and feminine dynamics at the deepest level.
Speaker:Let's dive in.
Speaker:I want to go very deep here directly with you, Peter.
Speaker:You've said that relationships, these are your own words, are the
Speaker:greatest conduit to self-realization if we're willing to pay attention.
Speaker:Otherwise, in your own words, which is really powerful, they become simply a way
Speaker:to maintain our limitations.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I mean, if you understand the nature of life and the fabric of what it
Speaker:is to be alive, everything that we experience is by virtue of relating
Speaker:like the energy of relativity, right?
Speaker:We don't know, uh, anything without that experience, meaning consciousness
Speaker:as a unified, um, source of everything has no experience without the
Speaker:illusion of diversity or separation.
Speaker:So relationships, particularly romantic ones where we get a little bit, sort of
Speaker:more vulnerable, a little bit more under the hood of our own identities is, um,
Speaker:as you quoted me, the greatest conduit for self, self-realization or awakening.
Speaker:Because if you look at the fabric of time and space, the dimensions that
Speaker:we seem to traffic in, I would assert they're actually within us, but they are
Speaker:akin to the mirror that we look at, you know, usually in the morning when we go
Speaker:and brush our teeth or wash our face.
Speaker:So relationships are that, that equivalent, you know, we get to see where
Speaker:we are fundamentally, typically stuck or oblivious to our own limitations, courtesy
Speaker:of somebody else or somebodies else.
Speaker:Um, and so if you're willing to look, as I said, then it's
Speaker:the greatest form of awakening.
Speaker:If you're not, then it's the greatest, um, form of validation, right?
Speaker:Meaning we get to be right.
Speaker:We blame other people, and we become victims of our own conditioning
Speaker:and we blame other people.
Speaker:Well, it's 'cause of my mom, it's 'cause of my dad, it's 'cause
Speaker:of my spouse, or whatever it is.
Speaker:Um, but if you may have, you know, had one of my other quotes, I say, life will
Speaker:present you with people and circumstances to reveal where you're not free.
Speaker:So if you're willing to look through that lens, then relationships are a gift
Speaker:to see where am I not okay with things and where am I still in the world of
Speaker:victimhood blaming my circumstances and those around me for my own suffering?
Speaker:Um, which is a very disempowering perspective.
Speaker:The way I like to describe it sometimes is that in relationships,
Speaker:it's the embodiment piece.
Speaker:Because in, in so many other areas of our life, we can tell ourselves
Speaker:a story and we might get away with it in a sense of kind of
Speaker:stick talking about intellectual or spiritual bypassing.
Speaker:And yet in relationships it's still possible, obviously, when both are
Speaker:in a kind of unconscious dynamic, as you said, kind of validating
Speaker:each other's core wounds, that they are right at a subconscious level.
Speaker:But at the same time, when we pay attention, that's where the
Speaker:embodiment piece starts to happen.
Speaker:How, how have you noticed your journey of embodiment deepening through relationship?
Speaker:Gosh, how have I noticed?
Speaker:I mean, that's been really the, the arc of my own evolution has really
Speaker:been through romantic relationships.
Speaker:Um, I mean, others for sure play their part, but I think until such
Speaker:time that we become sufficiently vulnerable through what we, you know,
Speaker:we declare as love, which I think is, uh, sometimes a misnomer for people.
Speaker:But I have grown immensely courtesy of all the relationships I've had,
Speaker:sometimes like a spiritual two by four around the head, you know, is really not
Speaker:very pleasant and sometimes just very, you know, a gentle insight that was
Speaker:like, oh wow, I'd never realized that that was the way that I interpreted,
Speaker:communicated, listened, or whatever it is.
Speaker:So, I'm grateful for all of the relationships I've had
Speaker:that have been meaningful.
Speaker:You know, I think if, if there isn't a depth of connection,
Speaker:then the real internal transformations tend not to happen.
Speaker:So, you know, I've certainly had some relationships that are a little bit
Speaker:more superficial or just fun, but for those that have been meaningful
Speaker:and heartfelt, um, I definitely have been humbled a few times, you know,
Speaker:with regards to my own maturity or lack thereof, you know, early on.
Speaker:And realizing, I think, you know, just even in the last year or so,
Speaker:I recognize that one of my deepest forms of conditioning is, um, is
Speaker:that fierce independence, right?
Speaker:Like I'm very, very comfortable by myself.
Speaker:I love my own company.
Speaker:I'm, uh, prolifically creative.
Speaker:So I've got a myriad of projects that I'm always working on.
Speaker:There's no boredom in my life.
Speaker:Um.
Speaker:I'm being pulled to every corner of the globe to speak, to help, to work,
Speaker:to, you know, align with people.
Speaker:And, um, so there's never any malaise in my life being by myself.
Speaker:But as a result, uh, and you don't have to be a rocket scientist,
Speaker:you might know my story.
Speaker:I was orphaned by 17.
Speaker:My, my mom died when I was seven.
Speaker:My dad went to work when I was 17, never came back.
Speaker:And so for, you know, three plus decades, I've been pretty
Speaker:good at, um, being by myself.
Speaker:And that's not necessarily the greatest conduit, uh, for affinity with another.
Speaker:And so that's something that even of late, I've realized the distinction between me
Speaker:being free from the suffering of life.
Speaker:Like, I don't consider myself to be at the effect of life at all.
Speaker:I'm not a victim.
Speaker:I'm totally okay with whatever happens.
Speaker:It might not be my personal preference, but it doesn't,
Speaker:you know, it doesn't upset me.
Speaker:But then, you know, to be freedom with somebody, you know, in partnership is
Speaker:I think the next evolution that I'm now exploring, which is really powerful.
Speaker:So yeah, relationships have been the number one, uh, inspiration
Speaker:for my evolution for sure.
Speaker:Thank you for sharing about, about your journey losing your mother
Speaker:at at seven and your father at 17.
Speaker:I lost my father to cancer when I was 14 years old.
Speaker:And specifically talking about the loss of the
Speaker:masculine role model.
Speaker:That journey for you when you lost your healthy masculine role model,
Speaker:how did you find safety, security, and, and, and started to feel
Speaker:powerful in your masculine energy?
Speaker:I think to begin with, I didn't, you know, I mean, I think at 17 there's
Speaker:this sort of false bravado that we all have thinking that we know,
Speaker:um, how to manage ourselves, how to function in life, and it's sort
Speaker:of, you know, true oblivion, right?
Speaker:Like we're just unconscious, ignorant.
Speaker:And so, um, that was, that was a long time coming for me to really discover
Speaker:my own healthy masculine, you know, not the masculine that is built on
Speaker:performance or competition, um, but really a masculine that's founded in
Speaker:self, you know, worth and grounded in my own true essence, that that took a while.
Speaker:Uh, and I think it's an ever, you know, for, for every man, I
Speaker:think it's an ongoing proposition.
Speaker:You know, I'm still now looking at the different qualities of what
Speaker:it is to be a true, authentic man, just as it is for, you know, any
Speaker:woman to be a true, authentic woman.
Speaker:I think there's so, so many, um, misconstrued concepts of what it is to
Speaker:be a man or a woman, and it's really contaminated the natural state of being
Speaker:for, for both masculine and feminine.
Speaker:So it's an ongoing, uh, arc of growth for me and something that
Speaker:I love to, to study and integrate.
Speaker:And, you know, I'm now as part of my offerings with all of my work, you know,
Speaker:really developing programs to facilitate men and women to become men and women, not
Speaker:little boys and little girls, you know.
Speaker:So, it's something that I'm really excited to bring here, probably in the next sort
Speaker:of 12 to 24 months to help people really tap into, you know, what is the divine
Speaker:feminine, what is the divine masculine?
Speaker:What does that, like, what are the characteristics?
Speaker:What are the behavioral adaptations, you know, that we've used either in
Speaker:a maladaptive way to survive, or that when we tap into the true, essence
Speaker:of what it is to be a real man and a real woman, what does that look like?
Speaker:Most people don't have good role models, as you know, for you.
Speaker:I'm sorry to hear about your dad, but like, you know, when you're
Speaker:stripped of a father figure or a mother figure at an early age, first
Speaker:of all, you lose that archetype.
Speaker:But, you know, with no, uh, judgment of any parents, to what
Speaker:degree was that mom or dad even a good archetype in the first place?
Speaker:You know, oftentimes they're not the greatest role models 'cause they're
Speaker:human beings doing the best they can as well, and they have their own traumas and
Speaker:shortcomings and fears and inadequacies.
Speaker:So, um, I think the world needs, um, a blueprint for what it is to be,
Speaker:uh, somebody who's truly embodied in their masculine and feminine.
Speaker:So it's an ongoing proposition.
Speaker:It's something that I love to explore.
Speaker:And, um, I'm still in the finding process, I think, you know, but at the same time
Speaker:I feel pretty proud of, you know, where I've gotten to as a man relative to really
Speaker:not having any, you know, foundation from my parents because they obviously,
Speaker:uh, exited at a quite young age.
Speaker:The journey from boy to man.
Speaker:What would you, what would you say is the most important aspect about
Speaker:this journey, about this initiation?
Speaker:Ooh, that's a good question.
Speaker:There's so many different facets, but I think, you know, sovereignty, if I were
Speaker:to put it in one word, you know, and then the, the one word that I really find is
Speaker:usually absent for most human beings is responsibility or, or accountability, I
Speaker:think they're sort of synonym, synonyms.
Speaker:Um, but I. I think, you know, there's a dependency that is innate, right?
Speaker:With being a child, right?
Speaker:You can't fault a child who needs shelter and food and protection.
Speaker:So there's that transition, and I don't think it's an overnight thing.
Speaker:I think back in the day, what we do miss is these initiation periods
Speaker:that boys used to go through.
Speaker:Like maybe you, you know, send a 15, 16-year-old kid out into the
Speaker:wild for three or four nights and he's gotta figure it out, you know?
Speaker:Uh, we don't do that anymore.
Speaker:It's sort of you sit in front of a couch and play your Nintendos or watch
Speaker:Netflix and apparently you become a man.
Speaker:But, uh, so I think, you know, responsibility, accountability, and
Speaker:self ownership are probably the biggest qualities that I find missing even in
Speaker:some of my peers, you know, with, again, without any judgment or criticism, um,
Speaker:where they're still being driven by these subtle underlying feelings of inadequacy
Speaker:and security and scarcity, which has them, uh, be at the effect of life or
Speaker:put too much pressure on their partner, you know, girlfriend, wife, whatever
Speaker:it is, to, uh, baby them a little bit.
Speaker:And I know many women feel that.
Speaker:Um, but it's also, uh, reciprocated, right?
Speaker:There's a lot of women out there who are still, you know, uh, I know it's
Speaker:cliche, but, um, being driven by their daddy wound, you know, and wanting
Speaker:the man to sort of mollycoddle them.
Speaker:So I think there's this mal adaption and this, um, this feeling
Speaker:of inadequacy on both sides.
Speaker:Where I think a lot of men struggle with the absence of
Speaker:community, the absence of tribe.
Speaker:And so this is why men, um, are, are highly skewed more
Speaker:towards suicide than women.
Speaker:Women tend to be much better at opening up, being vulnerable,
Speaker:and speaking to each other.
Speaker:'cause I think they're blessed with the f the faculty of listening to each other.
Speaker:Women know how to listen.
Speaker:Men not so well.
Speaker:And so I think men struggle to find, you know, community.
Speaker:Um, so I, I, I, you know, there's sort of one cautionary, uh, uh, disclaimer
Speaker:there, which is yes, to be responsible, accountable and be your own man.
Speaker:But also that includes having, um, some sort of.
Speaker:Um, companionship with other men, um, so that there is a feeling of support.
Speaker:But, uh, I would wrap it up in saying that a boy is at the effect of life
Speaker:because he's looking through the lender dependency, whereas a man is no longer
Speaker:at the effect of life, but rather as the author of his own existence.
Speaker:Um, there's a, there's an entirely different level of, um, accountability,
Speaker:responsibility, and dominion that, you know, a man has when he realizes
Speaker:that he is the master of his own fate.
Speaker:I heard you say something really deep,
Speaker:and I think a lot of people would not express that with the courage you did,
Speaker:but you mentioned that the loss of your parents, even though incredibly
Speaker:painful, in a way it also set something free, or the terminology I believe you
Speaker:used was it set you free on your path to, to embody your sense of manhood.
Speaker:And of course you added the distinction to it that this is extremely painful
Speaker:and one has to work for the pain first.
Speaker:At the same time, we see men who still need to care, take or feel they need to
Speaker:care, take for their mother's emotions.
Speaker:They need to still prove themselves to their father.
Speaker:Can you talk a little bit more about that one?
Speaker:The pain?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:But then what do you mean by it set you free?
Speaker:Is, was it around expectations no longer needing to prove something to them?
Speaker:Um, to a certain degree, I think it's commonplace, um, particularly I think
Speaker:for the masculine, maybe less so for the feminine, uh, but where the boy is
Speaker:under the illusion that he's meant to fulfill on some sort of dharma or destiny
Speaker:that was, um, to appease the father.
Speaker:You know, like it's commonplace, of course, where if a father has a
Speaker:business, oftentimes the children, particularly the son, will come into,
Speaker:you know, the corporation and help take over and eventually sort of be
Speaker:the new custodian of that company.
Speaker:So I think there is a sort of an unwritten expectation for sure that,
Speaker:you know, well, whatever it is, I mean, it's cliche that the parents want the
Speaker:son to be a doctor or the daughter to be a lawyer or whatever it is.
Speaker:And so, uh, even though those conversations might be far and few
Speaker:between the child hears where there's the assignment of value, right?
Speaker:Like, we all want to feel worthy, we all want to feel loved,
Speaker:and they tend to be collapsed.
Speaker:So if a child hears that, you know, maybe the parents are doctors.
Speaker:And so there's this sort of, in insinuation that the, the child should
Speaker:continue that legacy and become a doctor because that's, you know, how you become
Speaker:revered in the community, that's what gives you stability financially in a
Speaker:bit of status in, in, in the world.
Speaker:Um, but underneath it, maybe that child really wanted to be a
Speaker:dancer, an artist, uh, I, I don't know, a mechanic, whatever it is.
Speaker:And so I think there is, for many people, um, subtle pressure
Speaker:and sometimes not so subtle.
Speaker:You know, sometimes parents are overtly, you know, outwardly spoken about what
Speaker:they, they want their children to do.
Speaker:Um, we see this in all of those cliche pageant things where, you
Speaker:know, girls, uh, have got a, an undue amount of, uh, emphasis on appearance,
Speaker:you know, whereas for men, there's, you know, the same sort of pressure,
Speaker:but it tends to be financially.
Speaker:So for me, you know, to address your question, I feel,
Speaker:yeah, I mean, it's horrific.
Speaker:I still wish at times I could just sit down with my dad and my mom
Speaker:and get to know them as adults.
Speaker:'Cause you know, when you're a kid, you have no interest in learning
Speaker:about their history, their upbringing.
Speaker:And now as a man, I would love to have learned, you know, what did
Speaker:they go through in their marriage?
Speaker:What did they go through in their childhood?
Speaker:And understand the arc of their, their journey.
Speaker:But nonetheless, spiritually, you know, uh, without sounding too esoteric, we
Speaker:clearly had a soul agreement between the three of us that, um, they,
Speaker:they ran the course of their life.
Speaker:And then, yeah, it may sound too philosophical for many people, but
Speaker:I, I feel that it, it afforded me the absence of expectation, right?
Speaker:It was the removal of any unwritten rules as to who Peter Crone was supposed to
Speaker:become because those voices were now gone.
Speaker:You know, and again, uh, for a lot of people, their parents might have
Speaker:died, but they still have the legacy of what they're supposed to fulfill on.
Speaker:I didn't have that.
Speaker:So I think it did set me up for, ironically, you know, my whole
Speaker:messaging is around freedom.
Speaker:And, and, and I know this to be true because I hear so many of my peers now
Speaker:who are dealing with sick parents, right?
Speaker:They're having to go to hospital visits, doctors visits.
Speaker:They're putting their parents in hospice.
Speaker:And I was talking to somebody not that long ago, probably the last couple of
Speaker:weeks, who was under the impression that whilst they felt guilty saying
Speaker:it, they said, you know, at one level I, I, I'm kind of looking forward to
Speaker:the passing of, in this case, their dad, because one, the dad is sick and
Speaker:he doesn't wanna see his dad in pain.
Speaker:But then he said, two, I feel like I'll be able to breathe a sigh of relief because
Speaker:I can now just get on with my life.
Speaker:And, um, I think that's probably.
Speaker:You know, more common than people are willing to maybe admit that, um, there's
Speaker:an energetic, uh, and a biological bond, right, between parents and children.
Speaker:And there's this sort of, again, um, invisible container I think
Speaker:that most children live within based on the narratives that they've
Speaker:heard for, you know, let's face it, usually 3, 4, 5 decades that
Speaker:their parents have been around.
Speaker:And so, um, many of those get severed when the parents die.
Speaker:And there's this new sense of liberation that a lot of children feel where it's
Speaker:like, okay, I don't have to quote unquote, put up with the judgment, the criticism,
Speaker:feel like I'm, I've let my parents down.
Speaker:And so, as sad as it is to say, you know, the demise of a parent is oftentimes
Speaker:the, um, the, the, the rejuvenation of a child into a new possibility for,
Speaker:for how they can now live their life.
Speaker:So I guess I circumnavigated that whole thing.
Speaker:you know, from the age of 17.
Speaker:That doesn't mean it was easy.
Speaker:What would you say to a man who, is worried, who is ident
Speaker:identified with their role, or
Speaker:they see masculinity as my ability to provide?
Speaker:And then of course, that creates so much scarcity and limitation.
Speaker:How would you help such a man shift?
Speaker:Um, I think it's, again, you have beautiful questions.
Speaker:I think it's, um, it's, it's on both sides.
Speaker:But, and, and again, if we look at the stereotypes, so the masculine,
Speaker:it tends to be around, you know, providing, which I would put
Speaker:under the auspices of performing.
Speaker:You know, for women it tends to be around beauty and appearance, right?
Speaker:These are very cliche stereotypes, but nonetheless, they're very
Speaker:embedded into current society.
Speaker:So, you know, for a man who's struggling, I would, first of all, as I always do,
Speaker:I just wanna lead with love, right?
Speaker:It, it's okay.
Speaker:It's okay to feel.
Speaker:Even the sense of inadequacy.
Speaker:It's okay as a man to feel like you are, let's say he's married and even
Speaker:has kids and he's, um, not providing or not to the level that he wants, or even
Speaker:God forbid, his partner is, you know, judging him for the absence of provision.
Speaker:What that human being needs more than anything is, uh, is support, is
Speaker:love, is compassion, is acceptance.
Speaker:So that's where I would start, because invariably, in the absence of those
Speaker:qualities of holding and seeing somebody, and really hearing somebody, they are
Speaker:gonna be living in a world of fear and pressure, which is, you know, the
Speaker:precursor to not performing, right?
Speaker:So if we look at it just energetically, if somebody is feeling inadequate,
Speaker:well then they're probably being.
Speaker:Informed by a sense of fear as the primary emotion.
Speaker:And fear is not the conduit to great performance.
Speaker:You know, I've worked with, uh, probably a few hundred professional athletes and
Speaker:they all know that if they're coming from a state of being scared or, um,
Speaker:in any way anxious about performance, they typically don't do very well.
Speaker:So that, that would be the first, um, antidote is to love and support that
Speaker:man in the position that he's in, and allow him to know that it's okay to be
Speaker:scared, it's okay to feel inadequate.
Speaker:Then we want to sort of start to do the deeper dive into, you know,
Speaker:how long has that been there?
Speaker:Like, is this a typical way that you feel about yourself and relate to life?
Speaker:And if so, when did that start?
Speaker:You know, and it could be as mundane as perhaps he had an older brother
Speaker:who was smarter, faster, and a better, uh, academic and athlete.
Speaker:And so from that moment, you know, 5, 6, 7 years old, that, that man now at 47, 48.
Speaker:He is still looking through the lens of he's less than, because that was,
Speaker:you know, the conditioning that he became accustomed to growing up.
Speaker:And of course it's not a truth, but it becomes this invisible prison in
Speaker:which that being becomes trapped.
Speaker:So, you know, I think we start with acceptance and love.
Speaker:We hold someone for where they are, it's okay.
Speaker:And then secondly, we want to investigate the validity of whatever narratives
Speaker:and limitations are holding them back.
Speaker:And then, you know, thirdly, we would wanna see, well, if that's not true,
Speaker:if it's not true that you're less than, if that's gone, how would you feel?
Speaker:And typically you're gonna immediately see relief.
Speaker:It's like, whew, if I'm not less than I can do anything, I'm, you know, and
Speaker:then they start to tap into this natural embodiment of their own potentiality
Speaker:and they start to become unstoppable.
Speaker:What I see in my practice, I work with both men and women, but I do
Speaker:extensive men's work When a man is no longer identified with the, with being
Speaker:the provider and actually focuses on nervous system mastery and all the
Speaker:things you mentioned about sovereignty, responsibility and that deeper
Speaker:liberation, we'll talk about that.
Speaker:You talk about the kind of becoming the best version of your limited self
Speaker:and transcending that limited self.
Speaker:Well, let's unpack that in a second.
Speaker:But it's, it's, when a man lives from that place, abundance comes naturally.
Speaker:I, I, I, I've never seen anyone who lives from that place or accesses
Speaker:that place, not create abundance.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And it's also to really recognize and help people remember that
Speaker:worth as it relates to the human level is a complete story, right?
Speaker:Like, that might fluctuate during the course of your life, but your
Speaker:inherent value is, um, untouchable.
Speaker:You know, you, you are literally the only you on the planet.
Speaker:Um, you're a being who has all of the same attributes and characteristics
Speaker:and qualities of any other being.
Speaker:And so when people really start to understand that their worth is
Speaker:inherent, it's not something that's earned because of performance.
Speaker:It's not something that you deserve because of what you
Speaker:accomplished, it's there.
Speaker:And so in the absence of the stories to the contrary, then you start to
Speaker:just tap into that and live from that energy of abundance and self-worth
Speaker:because it's innate, it's not something that you have to work at.
Speaker:And that's, you know, part of unfortunately the, the systematic
Speaker:and indoctrination and education of children, and we are, we're taught
Speaker:that well, if you do something good, then you get the reward, whatever
Speaker:it is, like clean your bedroom and then you can have the cookie or.
Speaker:And so we're under the impression that in order to, um, get love or
Speaker:acknowledgement or value, uh, we have to do something versus, uh, really
Speaker:reeducating people to understand, know that your love, uh, and your capacity
Speaker:to be loved is in, in innate, there's, there's nothing you have to do.
Speaker:Like a baby when it's born is being shouted and inundated with love and
Speaker:you know, oh my gosh, it's a miracle.
Speaker:The baby hasn't done shit, you know.
Speaker:Like the baby is just lying there, vomiting, screaming, crying, laughing.
Speaker:And yet we see this as one of the most precious commodities,
Speaker:um, in, in existence.
Speaker:And so when people really start to correlate that same value that is the
Speaker:baby that they were one day has never gone anywhere, and it's not because
Speaker:you didn't tidy your room or that you didn't make six figures this year, you
Speaker:know, then you start to live from an entirely different vibration, which as
Speaker:you said, is a precursor to typically then if you want, you know, manifesting
Speaker:material wealth outside of you.
Speaker:But it's got nothing to do with your own psychological story of worth.
Speaker:You, you talk about dissolving the kind of mental prison that people find
Speaker:themselves, and I love that sentence that you said, people become the
Speaker:best version of their limited self.
Speaker:They become the best version of unworthiness.
Speaker:Maybe they make material success at the highest level, but they still operate from
Speaker:total, from a total prison, essentially.
Speaker:How do you help someone see, number one, that they are living from
Speaker:a false or conditioned identity?
Speaker:And number two, how do they start the process of stepping into the
Speaker:unknown, into the uncomfortable or uncomfortable at first, kind of
Speaker:dissolving that mental prison and into the deeper essence of who they are?
Speaker:A
Speaker:bit of a question, isn't it?
Speaker:Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker:And I guess it's, uh, you know, if I were to say that I have a talent
Speaker:or a gift, uh, that's it, right?
Speaker:Is so first of all, people have to be willing to look and, you know,
Speaker:this is why I love that people from all around the world will sign up
Speaker:for my mastermind and they go on this journey of that kind of inquiry, right?
Speaker:People come to me with whatever their problems are, and then we unpack
Speaker:it and go, okay, well is it really because you can't find a relationship?
Speaker:Is it really 'cause you can't make money?
Speaker:Is it really because you have this health issue?
Speaker:Or is there something deeper going on?
Speaker:It's like Carl Jung had a great quote, he said, until the unconscious is
Speaker:made conscious, it will drive your life and you'll call it fate, right?
Speaker:So this is really what we're doing, is we're bringing the unconscious to
Speaker:the conscious level and then helping people see, oh my gosh, you know, it's
Speaker:not that right now, uh, you are in this position where you feel, uh, you're
Speaker:never gonna meet someone or you're never gonna have a loving relationship.
Speaker:It's, uh, from when you were a kid, you know, you were
Speaker:told that you weren't wanted.
Speaker:And so you've lived inside of that narrative, this invisible
Speaker:conversation, for 40, 50 years.
Speaker:So that's how is, first of all, people have to be willing, they have to show up.
Speaker:They want to engage.
Speaker:'cause you go up to someone on the street, you know, I could probably read
Speaker:people's energies pretty accurately, but if they're not willing to talk about it,
Speaker:you're just gonna be met with defense and probably a few fuck yous, you know?
Speaker:So it's, uh, the willingness, uh, to look and then, and then,
Speaker:as I said, investigating the validity of these stories.
Speaker:Um, and then, yes, it can be scary, but it's not, it's usually euphoric, right?
Speaker:Because it's like taking off a tight shoe.
Speaker:You know, if you've been living inside of a constraint that has become normalized,
Speaker:one, you, you become accustomed to it to the point that you don't even
Speaker:know it's there anymore, but then two.
Speaker:When it's revisited, you start to see the cost of what it's like to live inside of
Speaker:a world where you don't think you're good enough, there's something wrong with you,
Speaker:um, you're not loved, you're not wanted, you know, you then, then the flood works.
Speaker:The, you know, the, the, they, they, they, the tears, the emotions that have been
Speaker:associated with that, that all comes out, you know, and that's really beautiful.
Speaker:That can be uncomfortable for somebody, but it's also very liberating because it's
Speaker:all of this stored emotion and feeling.
Speaker:Um, and then typically it's less about being scared of the unknown,
Speaker:it's more you get this sense of feeling vital and alive with the
Speaker:possibility of who could you be in the absence of that previous constraint.
Speaker:And that's one of the things that I love to talk about is helping people
Speaker:understand that it doesn't matter how hard you try to manifest a life that
Speaker:you say you want, if it's in conflict with your deeper conditioning, you're
Speaker:just hitting your head against a wall.
Speaker:And that's when people start to see that.
Speaker:They're like, holy shit.
Speaker:You, you are.
Speaker:Every human being is wired and programmed to think, feel, and act a certain way.
Speaker:So if that's not, uh, in harmony with the desires and dreams and aspirations
Speaker:that you have, you can try all you want.
Speaker:And some people will attain some of them, but then they'll usually sabotage
Speaker:them or it will be at a great expense to their health or their relationships
Speaker:because they're trying to force something.
Speaker:Talking about, let's say a person is doing all the work, whatever
Speaker:that's supposed to mean, right?
Speaker:They're doing all
Speaker:the work.
Speaker:They're checking all the boxes, and yet they feel stuck.
Speaker:Would you say then, that the reason why they feel stuck is not because
Speaker:they're not, they're not doing enough, they are hitting the ceiling
Speaker:of their programming and narrative, and they need to transcend it?
Speaker:For sure.
Speaker:But there's also a slightly more insidious part to that.
Speaker:So it's not just that what they're doing is hitting their ceiling, but
Speaker:the reason they're doing what they're doing is because of their limitations.
Speaker:You see, it's so slippery, right?
Speaker:So all of the actions that anybody does.
Speaker:Their behaviors are a continuum, right?
Speaker:They're inextricably connected to their way of viewing life.
Speaker:You know, the way that people view life, their perspective is what informs
Speaker:the way they feel, the way they act, and consequently the results they get.
Speaker:So whatever anyone's doing with all of the best intentions is typically
Speaker:being driven by the unconscious conditioning that they're oblivious to.
Speaker:That's why it takes real introspection and reflection to work with somebody
Speaker:who can point out these blind spots, 'cause otherwise what becomes normal
Speaker:for you is not natural, but it is in line with your programming.
Speaker:So even the behaviors sometimes to mitigate or reconcile programming
Speaker:is reinforcing programming.
Speaker:So some, someone doing the three hour meditation say, but they're doing it from
Speaker:the programming of, I am not good enough.
Speaker:I need to get rid of, might have far fewer results than the person doing a one
Speaker:minute meditation, but they're doing it from a place of I am already good enough.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:Frequency proceeds form is one of my, you know, many quotes.
Speaker:So, yeah.
Speaker:So the frequency by which we function, view ourselves, and we live from
Speaker:will generate the form around us.
Speaker:It's profound when you can see that the conditioning that people have
Speaker:is Undeniably the precursor to all of the circumstances of their life.
Speaker:Um, you know, so if you want to change your reality, which everybody does, right?
Speaker:Everybody's got something they wanna change their body, their
Speaker:relationships, their finances, their purpose, their job, their home.
Speaker:But usually what people are doing is they're trying to change their
Speaker:circumstances without looking at who they are that created them in the first place.
Speaker:And so until such time that you really shift the frequency of who
Speaker:you are, um, then it's gonna be, uh, a little bit of a foot on the brake,
Speaker:foot on the accelerator scenario for trying to change your circumstances.
Speaker:And that's why I love using the analogy of a radio because everybody gets it.
Speaker:Like, you know, an old school radio that you would tune
Speaker:into a particular frequency.
Speaker:At that frequency there is the effortless connection with the
Speaker:music on that same frequent.
Speaker:There's no effort required.
Speaker:You, this doesn't require willpower or force.
Speaker:It's there automatically.
Speaker:So if you want, if you'll say on classic rock, but what you want is RnB, well,
Speaker:it is not about staying at classic rock, which would be, I'm gonna be
Speaker:stuck to my own programming, but I'm gonna try and force different outcomes.
Speaker:You have to shift the frequency of who you are, at which point RnB will
Speaker:become effortlessly available to you.
Speaker:And the same applies to health, wealth, and relationships
Speaker:once people really get it.
Speaker:Let's talk about the, we touched upon manifestation a little bit here.
Speaker:Let's talk about that sacred tension between everything is
Speaker:my responsibility and also I let go of control and surrender.
Speaker:You said something powerful.
Speaker:I heard you say it's not all up to us, and there is obviously also as you say, a
Speaker:responsibility for creating our reality.
Speaker:How do we find the balance or the alignment between the two?
Speaker:What does it really mean in practice to surrender, but at the same time also
Speaker:work towards, let's say, attracting a divine counterpart or, or anything else.
Speaker:uh, I think you used the word there yourself, which is alignment, right?
Speaker:We're co-creators.
Speaker:We are not silos.
Speaker:It's not all up to us, but nor are we just victims of life.
Speaker:And so to find that sweet spot of co-creation.
Speaker:And really to continue the analogy of the radio, the only illusion I would say
Speaker:is time where people become impatient.
Speaker:They, they're like, yeah, but I really want this, i've done the work
Speaker:again, you know, whatever the work is.
Speaker:But then it's like, to what degree does something become actually present in
Speaker:your life is just the illusion of time.
Speaker:So if something is not there, uh, then typically one, you know, the frequency
Speaker:hasn't shifted, you know, authentically, it might be a, a masquerading frequency.
Speaker:You, you look like a spiritual person on the surface, but at home, you know, you're
Speaker:incredibly, uh, derogatory and angry towards your children or your spouse.
Speaker:Uh, uh, so there's, uh, there's an inauthenticity at play.
Speaker:So that's the first thing to rec recognize is to what degree am
Speaker:I truly inherently vibrating at the frequency that is reflective
Speaker:of the life that I wish to have.
Speaker:Then if you really are embodying that, the only illusion is time.
Speaker:And so, uh, I often say in the, the arc of somebody's evolution into what
Speaker:I would consider this new type of human being, then two of the hardest lessons
Speaker:at the end are trust in patience.
Speaker:So, uh, if I have done the work to transcend and dissolve the constraints of
Speaker:my own suffering, now it's uh, almost like this no man's land for a little while.
Speaker:Where I've come out of the world of survival, which is what everyone's
Speaker:programmed to live within, just trying to make it through life.
Speaker:And now I'm sort of in this little bit of a holding pattern until I start to
Speaker:align with what I would call soul driven motivations versus ego-driven motivations.
Speaker:Most people's will to live is driven by survival, right?
Speaker:They're trying to keep up with the appearances that were bestowed upon
Speaker:them by their parents or society.
Speaker:Uh, they're trying to garner love and acceptance from their peers.
Speaker:They're trying to, as we discussed earlier, establish a
Speaker:sense of worth by performance.
Speaker:But it's all survival based.
Speaker:When you let go of that, you step into a world where you're driven more
Speaker:by a calling, by a sense of purpose.
Speaker:Your intuition is, oh, hang on a minute, it doesn't have to be that hard.
Speaker:I've always loved to.
Speaker:Dance or express myself in music or art, or I've always felt a calling
Speaker:to help third world countries or kids who are starving or.
Speaker:And once it becomes this more, um, innate feeling of, um, creativity,
Speaker:um, then it's just a matter of letting life align with that.
Speaker:And, and that can be, that can be that last challenge, which is patience.
Speaker:So that is the shift though, to come from a world that is driven entirely by
Speaker:surviving, because of the world of fear and limitation that most people are by
Speaker:default still stuck in and then aligning with something that is more, um, natural.
Speaker:It's the qualities of the soul that you are, that has a feeling of joy.
Speaker:It has a feeling of freedom.
Speaker:It's not based on anything.
Speaker:Most people's will and motivations have an agenda.
Speaker:Uh, I'm doing something because, you know, I go to work even though I
Speaker:hate my job because I have to pay my mortgage and put food on the table.
Speaker:And I'm not saying that's, uh, you know, an invalid way to live.
Speaker:It's just an exhausting way to exist.
Speaker:Um, so that's the transition from a world that is built on, uh, limitations,
Speaker:fear, and then leads to surviving to the world that is, you know,
Speaker:driven by living from the experience of our true essence, which is, you
Speaker:know, freedom, love, and possibility of the words that I always use.
Speaker:There's something you said there around a person transcending or starting to
Speaker:transcend their, their limitations.
Speaker:They start to access this higher state of awareness for lack of better words
Speaker:or whatever terminology we want to use, and then it's up to trust and patience.
Speaker:I think that's really important for the listeners because
Speaker:some people then say, but why is it not here yet?
Speaker:Or, or, I feel this liberation, but it's not here.
Speaker:So now I'm going
Speaker:back to limitation.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And that's why I said they're the two I know for myself, you know, however, I've
Speaker:done this now for close to 30 years, and at the beginning there was this euphoria,
Speaker:there's this sense of complete, an utter freedom that cascaded, uh, through every
Speaker:cell of my body where I truly experienced, uh, a version of myself in life that I
Speaker:did not know was even available to me.
Speaker:Um, that didn't mean all of a sudden I had millions of dollars in my bank account
Speaker:or, you know, that I was being asked to fly around the world as I'm now to
Speaker:speak to some of the, the who's who and sports and business and entertainment.
Speaker:But it was nonetheless the foundation upon which all of that got to exist.
Speaker:So, um, yeah, it's, it's knowing that there is a, there, there is an arc,
Speaker:you know, to going from a world that is built on the premise that you are
Speaker:an individual separate who has to fight for existence, to then recognizing the
Speaker:unity and even in physics, the unified field of which we're all apart, right?
Speaker:That I'm not separate.
Speaker:And that is, uh, for a lot of people, that's very confronting, you know, because
Speaker:it goes against everything that we've known, the cognitive dis dissonance that
Speaker:people experience of like, wait, what?
Speaker:Like my father didn't really hate me because I, I never saw him
Speaker:from the age of three to 20, 23?
Speaker:Um, and you start to understand the conditions by which your
Speaker:life has come into existence.
Speaker:And then there's a little bit more.
Speaker:Humility.
Speaker:So having trust in patience is part of the arc.
Speaker:You know, uh, sometimes it's instantaneous.
Speaker:I mean, I've worked with people who, you know, after a conversation the
Speaker:very next day they, they found some news or they received an opportunity
Speaker:that was never gonna be available to them in their previous frequency.
Speaker:Uh, and then other things take a little bit of time.
Speaker:And so that to me is part of the beauty of what it is to be human and go on this
Speaker:journey of sort of cosmic hide and seek, you know, where we step into different
Speaker:iterations of ourselves and constantly die to those that are previously limiting us.
Speaker:Um, but then having, you know, the wherewithal to realize that
Speaker:my shift is the precursor to life rearranging itself around me.
Speaker:And sometimes that does take a little bit of time and to even
Speaker:enjoy that process, you know.
Speaker:Because if we're given everything instantaneously, I, I think the
Speaker:value that's associated with it becomes, you know, compromised.
Speaker:It's, it doesn't mean so much anymore.
Speaker:Uh, and I think there's something beautiful about, you know, doing the work
Speaker:internally ourselves and then trusting the process because that builds confidence.
Speaker:It builds companionship with life itself.
Speaker:It's like, okay, forgive me, I didn't have enough faith there to begin with, but you
Speaker:know, you still delivered, uh, the more that I stuck with my, my deeper intuition
Speaker:and knowing that it's all gonna work out,
Speaker:I think we're touching really upon, off on the word surrender here as well.
Speaker:maybe a slightly poetic question,
Speaker:but I feel that in the surrender of the heart as a man specifically, that
Speaker:that kind of masculine journey of the surrender of the heart, the, the worry
Speaker:of devotion, the worry of love, there is the feminine quality and energy to it.
Speaker:But there's also this immense courage, almost a kind of deep masculine
Speaker:strength in, in that surrender.
Speaker:How did you experience that surrender, and did you experience that as
Speaker:a sense of strength inside you?
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:You know, the, the exercise I take, usually my athletes, 'cause they're
Speaker:sort of the pinnacle of performance in what they do is I take them through
Speaker:an exercise where I ask them the question that they, you know, um, more
Speaker:a statement that I ask 'em to repeat, which is, uh, they say, I am forceful.
Speaker:And then they have to feel that in their body.
Speaker:What does that look like?
Speaker:How does that manifest in their performance?
Speaker:And typically, not always, but I would say 99% of the time, you know, the
Speaker:words that come back or I feel like I'm pushing, I feel tense, I'm trying
Speaker:hard, I'm squeezing, you know, these words that are related with, uh, maybe
Speaker:a resistance in an effort, right?
Speaker:And then I say, okay, and now I want you to say the following.
Speaker:I am powerful.
Speaker:And immediately usually, you know, I might even have them have their eyes closed.
Speaker:I typically see their face soften, their shoulders relax, and they go, I
Speaker:feel very calm, I feel very still, I feel, uh, grounded, I feel unmovable.
Speaker:And so they, to me as words are really the, um, ability to distinguish
Speaker:between what you tapped into, you know, what you're talking about,
Speaker:the strength of surrender versus maybe, uh, the apathy of surrender.
Speaker:Like a lot of people can surrender, but really it's not,
Speaker:it's not a genuine surrender.
Speaker:It's an apathy that is more to do with res, you know, resignation
Speaker:or lethargy or quitting.
Speaker:That's not, that's not powerful at all.
Speaker:And so, you know, that's unfortunately one of the things that a lot of
Speaker:humans fall into is, you know, in lay terms, well, fuck it.
Speaker:I don't give a shit, which is really pouting.
Speaker:It's really, you know, a child who is, disconnected, who feels, um, weak.
Speaker:And so that's the antithesis of the force that we want to tap into, or,
Speaker:or rather the power that we want to tap into, which is, you know, the,
Speaker:the sovereignty, going back to those words and the responsibility, the
Speaker:accountability of being a powerful man.
Speaker:Yes, there's, there's, there's a surrender, but it's not a surrender
Speaker:that is based in quitting or giving up.
Speaker:It's a surrender that is based in harmony.
Speaker:It's a surrender that's based in alignment with the forces of the universe that
Speaker:obviously we pale in comparison to, but nonetheless we're a part of, right?
Speaker:We're not separate to.
Speaker:And so when we recognize that the surrender is really an alliance
Speaker:with the force of nature, uh, it's not the apathetic, uh,
Speaker:sort of differentiation from it.
Speaker:And that to me is an entirely different way to live life, where
Speaker:surrender is actually the coupling of my force with, you know, the power,
Speaker:uh, of mother nature and life itself.
Speaker:It's where the surrender, ironically, is to the part of me that felt
Speaker:it was all up to me that was trying to force things to happen.
Speaker:Uh, and a true surrender is where I align with the way things
Speaker:are naturally meant to happen.
Speaker:Uh, and I'm not separate to that.
Speaker:So that's the way I would distinguish it, is the difference between
Speaker:one, uh, ego driven, which is all about separation survival,
Speaker:which has a forceful nature to it.
Speaker:And two, which is recognizing that I'm not a separate entity, that I am
Speaker:inherently connected with all things.
Speaker:And for that reason, I am absolutely bestowed with the essence of power.
Speaker:And it's, it's easier to force, to push, to try, I'd say, than to truly surrender.
Speaker:Uh, it's only easier because of what's become normalized.
Speaker:It's not easy in terms of actual physics or truth, right?
Speaker:It's easier because it's familiar.
Speaker:It's not easy in terms of reality.
Speaker:Great distinction.
Speaker:There is one topic as the last one I want to dive into with you.
Speaker:Ai, the rapid advancement of technology, algorithms becoming more seducive, people
Speaker:getting more sucked into technology.
Speaker:You say your product is freedom or
Speaker:you, your deepest offering to the world is helping people free their minds,
Speaker:free their spirits, free, their souls.
Speaker:With the rapid advancement of technology and specifically AI, which I see
Speaker:as much more seductive than what has been there previously, how can
Speaker:people stay in that state of freedom?
Speaker:That's a great question.
Speaker:I think it's, it's no different than the seduction of a romantic relationship, the
Speaker:seduction, as we touched on before, of the feeling of being somehow, uh, aligned
Speaker:with parents and the, the underlying sense of loyalty that one feels, even
Speaker:if it's against their own intuition.
Speaker:It's just another means of relativity, which is how we started this whole
Speaker:conversation about relationships ,is the means by which we get to see ourselves.
Speaker:So who are you in communion with AI?
Speaker:Who are you?
Speaker:In those dialogues?
Speaker:You know, what is the underlying agenda?
Speaker:What are you looking to discover?
Speaker:Are you looking for a reflection of self-worth because you lack it?
Speaker:Are you looking for a sense of security because you live in a
Speaker:world where you don't feel safe?
Speaker:You know?
Speaker:So really rather than.
Speaker:Again, becoming too, um, sort of bamboozled by the outside world, which
Speaker:as you said, can be very seductive.
Speaker:I mean, we've got people who are trained in the art of manipulation.
Speaker:All of these psychological operations that exist in the world that we have
Speaker:seen, especially over the last few years.
Speaker:You know, these are multi-billion dollar campaigns, uh, where you get the, the,
Speaker:the consistent programming from news channels that will say the same thing
Speaker:until such time that people are really brainwashed to believe something about
Speaker:a political figure or, you know, a celebrity or whatever war's going on.
Speaker:You know, the, the divide and conquer methodology is very, very
Speaker:alive out there in the world.
Speaker:So I think it's for somebody to be able to just take a beat, you know, going
Speaker:back to trust and patience, which is, you know, before you engage in anything,
Speaker:whether it be a physical relationship with another human or a digital relationship
Speaker:with AI, is, you know, really check in with yourself and ask, you know, what,
Speaker:what am I trying to accomplish here?
Speaker:Because typically it's not so much something that I'm wanting to proactively
Speaker:create, but rather it's a reaction to something that I feel is missing.
Speaker:And if I'm being driven by something that is, is lacking, uh, or that is wrong,
Speaker:then I'm only gonna reinforce that.
Speaker:And so it's the ability, again, for self-reflection.
Speaker:I mean, all of it, as I said at the beginning, is really a mirror
Speaker:for our own, uh, revelation.
Speaker:You know, I, I've often used the expression that life is revelatory.
Speaker:It, it's not so much about discovering something out there, but really
Speaker:uncovering the nature of who we are.
Speaker:And so, use, you know, use your neighbor, use your kids, use your
Speaker:parents, use your best friends, use your office, you know, colleagues, use AI.
Speaker:It doesn't really matter.
Speaker:Whatever means of interaction and communication you're using, if it's done
Speaker:correctly, will be the catalyst for you to discover something about yourself.
Speaker:But if you make it about what's out there, then, then you're missing the point.
Speaker:So I have no problem with AI.
Speaker:I know people have all of their concerns and considerations.
Speaker:Uh, I, I think it's just another extension of the human psyche.
Speaker:And so to what degree you want to understand that and use AI as maybe
Speaker:for some people, uh, are actually a really more profound way of
Speaker:self-discovery because they don't have the social, shortcomings and
Speaker:implications of shame and embarrassment that they might have with their
Speaker:colleagues asking the same questions.
Speaker:It's almost like a, a safe space, right?
Speaker:To have a dialogue where you don't feel judged 'cause you're
Speaker:just interacting with technology.
Speaker:So at one level, I think AI is wonderful because people get to be more
Speaker:self-expressed, they're gonna be less self-conscious, which means they're
Speaker:a little bit closer to the truth.
Speaker:But then just be conscious of how those conversations are leading you
Speaker:to, you know, your own revelations, are they yours or are they being
Speaker:sort of superimposed by technology?
Speaker:I mean, we've, we've heard the story, I'm sure you have, of how
Speaker:Chat GPT, you know, really talked some kid into killing himself, right?
Speaker:But to what degree is that really the quote unquote problem of technology or
Speaker:like any kind of, uh, external mechanism we use, you know, you could look at
Speaker:drugs or alcohol in the same way, right?
Speaker:That it really amplifies somebody's underlying narrative.
Speaker:So to what degree did that kid already have some sort of inbuilt, you know,
Speaker:self-destructive programming that AI just reflected, you know, and
Speaker:that, that's a, that's a question, i'm not making that as a statement.
Speaker:You know, so with regards to how we all interact with ai, I would invite people
Speaker:just as they would with a partner, a loved one or a friend, you know,
Speaker:what is the underlying motivation?
Speaker:Where are you being informed, you know, from?
Speaker:What is the underlying conditioning that has you pose these questions or
Speaker:create these behaviors that really is a reflection of you that you
Speaker:are here to discover versus just to confirm or amplify because of some
Speaker:external conversation with technology?
Speaker:That, that would be my invitation.
Speaker:I think it's a powerful invitation because it's a different perspective
Speaker:also, and I think you talked about it already, that fear narrative of, oh,
Speaker:the next thing, now it's AI and this, but five years later, there's another
Speaker:thing, and there's another thing, and you are saying, from what I'm hearing is
Speaker:if you're looking into outside world, you're missing the point.
Speaker:It has always been your relationship to the thing,
Speaker:whether that's in 1780 or now, or in a hundred years, the work
Speaker:that needs to be done remains the same the same, so to speak.
Speaker:The medium by which we get to see it is just becoming more elaborate, right?
Speaker:So before you lived in a village, you didn't get to travel around the world,
Speaker:you weren't jumping on airplanes to go to a different continent, you know,
Speaker:you really were just reliant on the conversations that were maybe from your
Speaker:elders and the wise people in the tribe, or, you know, for whoever was the person
Speaker:that you're building a, you know, a barn with or whatever it was, right?
Speaker:So now the means by which we get to interface with different types
Speaker:of conversations has just become, you know, more sophisticated.
Speaker:That's it.
Speaker:But then if you recognize the benefit of that, and you look through the lens of to
Speaker:what degree can I utilize these mediums to better understand myself, well, you know,
Speaker:have at it that, that's, that's the gift.
Speaker:You have more means of self-reflection.
Speaker:It's, it's like, um, you know, I, I worked with a bunch of athletes, right?
Speaker:And some of the technology that I saw happen, for example, I started working
Speaker:with PGA tour golfers, you know, back in.
Speaker:Gosh, 2007 or something.
Speaker:And you know, back in the day, like the, the way that they would capture golfers
Speaker:and swings and stuff was, you know, it's a TV camera and that's about it.
Speaker:Then they got, you know, track man and they could like measure, you
Speaker:know, the speed and the distance and now they start to include that on the
Speaker:TV broadcast where you can see the line of where the golf ball's going.
Speaker:And then they would also suddenly have, I remember on some of the tee boxes, I
Speaker:think about 30 cameras that were in an arc around a, uh, a guy hitting the golf
Speaker:ball so that then they could portray every particular angle and move, you
Speaker:know, in 3D real time, the perspective that the viewing audience is able to
Speaker:watch the swing, whereas before it was just, you know, head on or from behind.
Speaker:And that's it.
Speaker:So what does that do?
Speaker:It just, it sort of, it gives you more perspective.
Speaker:It gives you more angles to be able to understand something, which even in the
Speaker:realm of science or anything to do with physics, gives you more information.
Speaker:So AI and all of these different forms of, um, uh, advanced technology
Speaker:that we get to interact with now is, is a, it's akin to just giving you
Speaker:a, a greater number of perspectives on yourself, which then to me, helps
Speaker:you to better understand who you are.
Speaker:Cause otherwise it was just, you know, your mom would say, no, you're wonderful.
Speaker:And your dad would say, no, you're a punk.
Speaker:You know, and it's like, you got these two perspectives to work on and you know,
Speaker:what, what are you gonna do with that?
Speaker:Right?
Speaker:Like, whoever's the most dominant in the figure, in the family is the one that
Speaker:you would probably like lean towards.
Speaker:Whereas now it's like we, we get inundated with a myriad of different
Speaker:ways of understanding who we are.
Speaker:That can at times be overwhelming for sure.
Speaker:You know, that can be even more confusing.
Speaker:But if you're willing to sit quietly and really feel intuitively into which ones
Speaker:resonate the most, then to me it's a, um, it's a much more accurate way for
Speaker:self, uh, realization and discovery.
Speaker:For people wanting to dive deeper into your powerful work,
Speaker:where's the best way for them to connect with you with you and your work?
Speaker:Uh, best place to find me on social media.
Speaker:It's all just my name, Peter Crone.
Speaker:So Instagram is @PeterCrone.
Speaker:I think Facebook, Peter Crone, the Mind Architect, and then, um, petercrone.com.
Speaker:If people want to go deeper, you know, my two biggest offerings are the
Speaker:membership, which is a very easy lift.
Speaker:It's super affordable, uh, if you want to just go through a hundred
Speaker:plus hours of content on how to free your mind, how to free your
Speaker:relationships, what is financial freedom?
Speaker:There's just a ton of courses.
Speaker:Or the most profound way to engage with me is my three and a half month
Speaker:mastermind, uh, which I lead for 30 something hours over, eight modules and
Speaker:go into all of the intricacies of what it is to be human and coach people.
Speaker:And that to date is, uh, my most, uh, successful, profound,
Speaker:and enjoyable journey for people who really wanna break free.
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